My friend who was verbally abused by Jim Long has decided not to pursue the matter any further as the office of Mayor is merely a ceremonial one and a position of absolutely no influence over budget. I am in disagreement here. I feel that, in the case of the sorry sorry state of Kate O’Brien’s house and the impending Mayoral visit to the Spanish town of Avila to attend a street naming ceremony in honour of Kate O’Brien, that it would have a bigger impact if this issue was pursued through the Mayor. I am, in fact, annoyed at my friend for not pursuing this further through the Mayor.
I am advised that he will continue his efforts to get Kate O’Brien’s house restored but that he will take no further action in pursuing an official apology from Mayor Jim Long for the abuse that was hurled at him. Well, at the risk of putting our putting our friendship under pressure, I am going to print the email exchange that went on between them. I will not name my friend, as he would then be able to make me take this conversation down. If you aren’t appalled that a Mayor of any shitty little hamlet, not to mind an important City like Limerick, could be capable of such juvenile behaviour, I fear you will never be appauled.
This is the email conversation that took place.
Concerned Citizen:
To whom it may concern,
I am a resident of Limerick in Ireland and I understand that our Mayor, Jim Long, is attending a street naming ceremony in your town. I find it decidedly peculiar that you would welcome the Mayor of Limerick to your city and I’m even more surprised that he has decided to attend when the city council over which he presides is allowing my hometown, Limerick City, to fall into abject disrepair. Historical buildings, including Kate O’Brien’s home, are allowed to fall into ruin and have become the playground of drug addicts who regularly set fire to them. Our forefathers built magnificent subterranean tunnels, which are now being filled with concrete because our Council has no imagination or pride in their city and have, thus, missed an important opportunity to create employment, tourism, revenue and a sense of pride in a community which badly needs it.
I apologise if this is a less than positive communication but I felt you should be aware of the bluffer you are planning to entertain.
Thank you for your time.
A quién va dirigido,
Yo soy un residente de Limerick en Irlanda y tengo entendido que nuestro alcalde, Jim Long, está asistiendo a una ceremonia de nombramiento de la calle en su ciudad. Me parece decididamente peculiar que daría la bienvenida el alcalde de Limerick a su ciudad y me sorprendió aún más que él ha decidido asistir al consejo de la ciudad que él preside está permitiendo a mi ciudad natal, la ciudad de Limerick, a caer en el abandono extrema . Los edificios históricos se dejan caer en la ruina y se han convertido en el patio de recreo de los drogadictos que regularmente les prendieron fuego. Nuestros antepasados construyeron magníficos túneles subterráneos, que ahora se están rellenos de hormigón, porque nuestro Consejo no tiene la imaginación o el orgullo de su ciudad y tienen, por lo tanto, se perdió una oportunidad importante para crear empleo, el turismo, los ingresos y un sentido de orgullo en una comunidad que mal que necesita.
Pido disculpas si se trata de una comunicación menos positivo, pero me sentía usted debe ser consciente de la farolero que son entretenidos en este momento.
Gracias por su tiempo.
Mayor Jim Long:
Nice Try C.M.
Concerned Citizen:
That’s a fairly ridiculous response. As a resident of Limerick, you represent me. Is this the kind of response we are all to expect?
Mayor Jim Long:
not all just you
Concerned Citizen:
Wow, such a cerebral and deeply thought out response. Am I to surmise that I don’t count then? That you don’t actually represent all of the people of Limerick, just those you choose to?
Mayor Jim Long:
you are always right
Concerned Citizen:
Not always, just more often than you. Who is this? Am I talking to a five year old?
Mayor Jim Long:
it is your bedtime now nity nity
Concerned Citizen:
What’s a nity? And why did you say it twice? You should revise that A is for Apple book.
Mayor Jim Long:
nity nity cm
Concerned Citizen:
Do your parents know you’re playing with their pc?
Mayor Jim Long:
only when with you
Concerned Citizen:
Ease up on the dosage pal, your making no sense.
Mayor Jim Long:
not able for the medicine are we
Concerned Citizen
Wow, great comeback!
Mayor Jim Long:
as always
Concerned Citizen:
Let’s start again. Why am I helping to pay for you to go to Spain when you have work to do here that you have completely ignored?
Mayor Jim Long:
Opinion;s are great
Concerned Citizen:
Ah, I see you’re still in a very cooperative mood.
Mayor Jim Long:
What-ever you say John
Concerned Citizen:
Well, at least you’ve cleared up the fact that LCC is a waste of time. Thank you.
Mayor Jim Long:
build your bridge and be careful you dont fall off-it
Concerned Citizen:
Where, in your expert opinion, should I build that bridge?
Mayor Jim Long:
try the gap between your ears
Concerned Citizen:
Since you don’t know me and your responses thus far have been decidedly less than cerebral, what would make you jump to the conclusion that I was born without a brain? My only solace in our discourse is that, whilst it’s been a complete waste of time, you are at least doing something. That is something that can rarely be said for LCC as far as I can see. A considered response to my orginal mail would’ve been preferable but I take it from your churlish and utterly juvenile responses to me, that you are only in this position for the handy money. When you eventually make your long overdue exit from that ivory tower of yours, make sure to use the back door.
Mayor Jim Long:
By now
Concerned Citizen:
That’s spelt, bye now. If you need any other spelling tips, please don’t hesitate to contact me.
Jim, could you please explain to me what I did to deserve the hostility and juvenile behaviour you have exhibited over the course of our mails? I have merely pointed something out. I even had the good grace not to specifically over state the irony of your visit, given the state of Kate O’Brien’s house. This is the first time I’ve been in contact with you and I have been abused for doing so. Maybe I should’ve forgotten my manners and failed to cc you on the original mail. I’m not attempting to verbally assault you but your office demands a high degree of maturity and respect. Thus far you have shown yourself to be alarmingly lacking in both. As a taxpayer and a resident of this city, I am entitled to a proper response from you.
Mayor Jim Long:
Your first email signed/sent by you decribes me as a bluffer and you are seeking an explation?
Concerned Citizen:
Ok, you have my sincere apologies for that. That was written out of sheer exasperation at the irony of your visit. That notwithstanding, I did not deserve the juvenile playground jibes that I received thereafter. You are Limerick’s representative. You are paid for by people like me. If I have no choice in your election, I can surely be forgiven a possibly ill-advised insult and be given a proper and professional response.
Mayor Jim Long:
Unfortunate your email calling me a bluffer has being picked up by outsiders, and you sent it to the Spanish office, these comments have caused me distress and you fired them, I am now putting closure to this debate only to say the Spanish seem to think that my presence is very worthwhile and at their expense, further evidence that you are not correct with your opening remarks, I am a very proud Limerick man and very honoured to hold the high office of Mayor, I do not demand respect but certainly expect it,and so your opening remarks offended me greatly. Jim
Concerned Citizen:
Well you have caused me plenty of offence since and, as Mayor, it is absolutely unacceptable. This insulted kitten response is equally unacceptable. The difference between you and I, Jim, is that I have been man enough and mature enough to apologise for the opening remarks. Do you not think it would’ve been infinitely more embarrassing had I told them what state Kate O’Brien’s house is in? I have tried to be adult and mature in our dealings and have been met with juvenile idiocy. I have done a lot of work in the community and continue to do so because I care about this town. You see heritage in our tunnels and fill it with concrete. I see potential. I could go on because it truly is an endless list but I doubt I’d get the adult and professional response I don’t expect but demand from a Mayor. I have lots of ideas that could have built your profile as a very active and very real Mayor but I think I’ll wait until we have someone who will listen. You declare and end to this debate because I firmly believe you are not able for it. I sincerely regret that this discussion could not have progressed to an adult level.
Concerned Citizen:
Jim, I’m really not trying to annoy you but could you please reply to my mails. I don’t wat to publish your abuse. I really don’t. I love Limerick and I’ve always tried to promote our city in the right way.
Mayor Jim Long:
Hi John, you sent an email to the Spanish office describing your Mayor as a Bluffer, this content has being noted, should you wish to publish my responce that is your decision, I believe your attack on me and the Mayors office was unnessary, unjustified, Defamority, it is being passed on as that of others for nvestigation, you might send on your phone number, you have mine, lets not be a mouse hiding behind emails. Jim
Concerned Citizen:
I apologised for the “bluffer” comment but you have yet to apologise for alluding to your hope that I’d fall off of a bridge, amongst other responses not becoming a person of such high office. I will send my number in time. As I’ve said, I do a lot of work in the community so our paths will invariably cross at some stage. I sincerely hope you display more professionalism at that time than you have so far shown to me. I’m certainly not hiding behind emails. As for the “bluffer” content being “noted” that doesn’t concern me in the least as I can justify the comment, as much as I now wish I didn’t use it because it seems to be the only thing you’re clinging to. Parts of our city are falling into ruin yet your most public outcry is about the Rose of Tralee. To most people in Limerick, that is something that is so far down the list of priorites that it scarcely matters. There are steps that could be taken, at minimal cost, that would cheer up our city, get our youth involved and give LCC and you in particular a much needed boost in profile. You would be seen as progressive but look back on your responses to me, Jim. Absolutely unnecessary and unprofessional. I have no intention of giving you my number until I am satisfied that I will not have abuse hurled at me from the other end.
Mayor Jim Long:
I await your number.
Concerned Citizen:
I won’t publish this reader’s number but I can confirm that the correct number was given to the Mayor.
Concerned Citizen (after waiting two days for the Mayor’s call):
I have supplied my number but I’ve yet to hear from you. I’m not
looking for an argument jim but our email conversation has been petty,
to say the least. I’m available after 2 tomorrow and all day friday.
Here’s hoping we can have an actual discussion.
Mayor Jim Long:
John, your comments to a Spanish office calling your Mayor a bluffer is causing distress as the comment has demeaned me in public life, I request you to retract this statement to the Spanish office in order to put final closure on this matter. Jim
Concerned Citizen:
Thus far, Jim, I have received no apology from you. You are not my mayor as I didn’t elect you. I will retract my description of you as a bluffer but nothing more, but only as soon as I receive an apology from you. You advised that we should not hide behind emails like mice and you asked for my number, yet you have not contacted me. I’m not concerned with your distress, Jim, I’m concerned with the draconian approach to governance in this town. You have been more than vociferous on the subject of Limerick’s Rose of Tralee qualification but not so vociferous on the fact that the town is falling apart. I have apologised to you personally for calling you a bluffer, though I sincerely think that you are, given your responses to me and your failure to open any kind of dialogue to convince me that I am wrong in my assertions. I will however retract this descripion of you to the Spanish office as soon as I receive a proper apology for the insults you threw at me. The fact remains, Jim, that you threw a hell of a lot more mud at me than I threw at you. My responses to you were considered and warranted.
As for “closure”, there will be no closure to this until I see evidence that you are actually doing something positive with your term as Mayor. As far as I can see, there is just your embarrassing interview with Matt Cooper, which painted Limerick in a less than flattering light. I look forward to 2014 when I can vote for someone to become Mayor. You have been a disappointment to me personally and to most of the people I’ve spoken to.
As for your “investigation” of my previous mails, I have sought legal advice on this so please stop wasting your time and mine with these childish threats. It is not against the law to express an opinion, much as you would like it to be so.
I assume by this mail that you are not prepared to talk to me, as you had promised. You have, thus far, failed to even address one of my concerns. You have corrected me, rightly, on the fact that I am not helping to pay for your Spanish trip as their local authority is. Had that been your first response, this would have ended there and then with an apology. Instead I’ve been bullied and called brainless by you. The hardman routine does not work on me, Jim. Considered discussion can work.
I look forward to your apology and, on receipt of same, will immediately retract my description of you as a bluffer to the Spanish office. Please do not consider this as a closure because the issue hasn’t gone away. Kate O’Brien’s house is in a disgraceful state of disrepair and no thought or imagination has been used to cheer up our much maligned town. This is my hometown and I’m fiercely proud of it but pride is not enough. Actions speak volumes. Pointless blustering achieves nothing.
Mayor Jim Long:
Hi John, you know what is requested. Jim
Concerned Citizen:
As do you and your request will not be honoured until mine is, Jim. These responses are nothing short of ignorant and illustrate clearly that you are not worthy of the office you hold. Please remember you are a public servant.
Concerned Citizen:
You have insulted me. You have no legal recourse. I have apologised for using the word “bluffer”. I have our entire conversation and am prepared, as is my legal brief, for anything you wish to throw at me. All I ask of you is an apology for the insults you hurled at me and this particular incident goes away. It’s a reasonable request, Jim. You have also stated that you do not share my sentiments. My sentiments are that I want what is best for Limerick. This does not have to go any further. I do not wish it to go any further. I am fully prepared to meet your challenge and then, as is my right, take it public. I do not want to do this. I have many friends in the media who would love a look at the insulting emails you have sent to me. I only ask an apology for those insults,. You do not have to agree with me. If I receive an apology, I will retract and apologise on the, not exactly public forum, for my use of the term bluffer. The decision is yours. If you want a retraction, you only have to apologise. This will then go no further.
Mayor Jim Long:
Hi John, this matter is now out of my hands.Jim
Concerned Ctizen:
It is also out of my hands. Unfortunately you do not have a case. I have taken, from one particular response by you, a perceived threat. I have passed this to my solicitor, who will issue you with proceedings. I have been distressed by this and, as you have refused any kind of dialogue, I will follow this to its conclusion. This will include press and radio. All you had to do was apologise to allay my concerns but you, unlike me, have been unable to do so. I genuinely didn’t want it to come to this but I have no recourse now. You will be hearing from my solicitor in due course. In the meantime, I will be continuing my positive work in the community. Should we meet, I will expect the utmost respect from you.
Mayor Jim Long:
Hi John, I am a very busy Mayor working/addressing many issues/problems for my residents, citizens, people, who accept me as their mayor, unlike you by your very own admission, you are the person that emailed a statement calling me a bluffer, you are the person that through the insult abuse and threatened me, you are the person keeping this going, I am going to take you to court for damages on my public standing which you have defamed and caused me personnel distress, you started this I will finish it also you might send evidence where you retracted your statement Jim
Concerned Citizen:
Please take me to court. Whenever a judge is available. Not only do you have no case but you’re going to have to stand down as Mayor. Let’s get to court as soon as possible. I’m ready.
Mayor Jim Long:
In motion,
Mayor Jim Long:
Hi John, my legal team inform me that it could take a few weeks to trace your address, you might be kind enough in forwarding it to me in order to speed up the process. Jim
Concerned Citizen:
Can you please forward me the name and address of your legal team and I will discuss it with them. I have spoken to several people who know you personally and, from what they tell me, I would be reluctant to give you my address. I’m also interested in hearing what they think of this fiasco as there is no case for me to answer. Had I accused you falsely, there would be but my solicitor has told me that, whilst you have absolutely no case, I have a really healthy counter-suit. I can’t really speak highly of your legal team if it is going to take them weeks to trace my address. Send on their contact details and I’ll speak directly to them. I will even meet them in person if it speeds this up. I will also insist that you will not pay my legal bills with taxpayers’ money, Jim.
Mayor Jim Long:
Hi John, you will not receive any more emails from me on this matter, you have just again discredited my good name, I will let this matter take its own course from here on, the issue of legal fees being met by me or otherwise will not arise. Bye for now. Jim.
Concerned Citizen:
I, on the other hand, will not let this go. As for discrediting you, I would first have needed to give you credit. I have only offered opinions, which is not against the law. You know you don’t have a case and, while it wouldn’t surprise me if you didn’t realise this, your legal team will already have told you this. Please send me the contact details of your legal team. This has now become a serious matter and I will not be letting it go. You couldn’t offer a mere apology to me. I am taking this public so I need to speak to your legal team to let them know of my exact intentions.
Concerned Citizen:
I am still awaiting contact details of your legal team. If you know anything about Irish law, you will know that I’m entitled to this information. Please don’t delay me with this information, I’m a very busy person.
So, let the chips fall where they may. This is a disgusting display of bully boy tactics and playground insults and this is the Mayor of Limerick City. Mayor Jim Long has now apologised to my friend, albeit in a very off-handed way, blaming pressure of being - and I quote, “racist ELY abused” - for his negative outbursts. Anyone reading this needs to get in touch with Minister Phil Hogan. There is no huge outlay of cash required to bring Kate O’Brien’s house back to it’s former glory and the community could be engaged to help. Indeed, I’m sure that quite a lot of our unemployed construction workers would be only too happy to help out.